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Ahmad Imam is an edutainer, sales extraordinaire, LinkedIn personality and speaker. He empowers progressive professionals to create a strong and intentional brand with knock-out content. So they can reach more people and build stronger relationships which drive revenue and growth.
Having been involved in over $1B worth of sales transactions over a 15-year career, Ahmad is a savvy negotiator. He grew his 100,000+ LinkedIn audience in just 15 months and regularly shares with them his secrets to gaining greater confidence, maintaining focus and getting what you want.
A video trailblazer, Ahmad’s charismatic personality has seen many of his posts go viral, and he averages 2 million views on his content per month. His ‘The Most Epic Music Video in LinkedIn History’ was featured in online articles from Forbes and Inc.
In 2019 he educated more than 500 people on the value of using LinkedIn for personal branding and building your authority. He aims to double that number in 2020.
Ahmad is also a brand ambassador and partners with companies that align with his core values of kindness, integrity, optimism and growth. A proud father and husband, his family are his greatest inspiration. One he uses to help others achieve their maximum potential.
SUCCESS STORY PODCAST
The Success Story podcast is focused on speaking to incredible people who have achieved success through trials, tribulations, wins and losses. In each episode we sit down with leaders and mentors. We document their life, career and stories to help pass those lessons onto others through insights, experiences and tactical strategy for business professionals, entrepreneurs and everyone in between.
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Scott D Clary, Ahmad Imam
Scott D Clary 00:06
Welcome to the success story podcast. I’m your host, Scott Clary. On this podcast, I have candid interviews with execs, celebrities, politicians and other notable figures, all who have achieved success through both wins and losses. To learn more about their life, their ideas and their insights, I sit down with leaders and mentors and unpack their story to help pass those lessons on to others through both experiences and tactical strategy for business professionals, entrepreneurs and everyone in between. Without further ado, another episode of the success story Podcast. Today I am with Ahmed imam who is a relatively well known LinkedIn personality influencer brand. Now what what Ahmed is currently doing, he’s working with the world’s greatest speakers, thought leaders, business minds, and he is an ambassador that provides opportunities for business leaders. So we’re speaking about Tony Robbins, Gary Vaynerchuk, Sir Richard Branson, and he helps facilitate and bring these events to life for all these prolific speakers. That’s an incredible job that he does. But also, he’s a LinkedIn authority, he’s built his own personal brand on LinkedIn, to over 300,000. And I’m going to get an exact number from him, I think it’s like 340, or something and change. He speaks internationally, on personal brand himself. And he always educates and teaches on how to stand out in a world that is increasingly busy and increasingly noisy. So thank you, I appreciate and I’m excited to sort of learn, you know, where you came from, what you’re doing with, with all these with all these, you know, brand name, influencers and events that you’re running, but also like your story with, you know, why are you doing what you’re doing on LinkedIn? How did you get into that? And just the whole the whole three, six, thank you. I really, really appreciate that you sitting. Thank you.
Ahmad Imam 01:55
Thank you for having me. And I appreciate that. That warm introduction. I don’t know if it’s deserved, but thank you.
Scott D Clary 02:02
Well, you don’t listen. I’m sure that it’s probably it’s probably not even doing justice. Not a lot of people have done, what you’ve done just in terms of your own personal brand. So right off the bat, that’s incredibly impressive. But walk me through like, let’s start, you know, from you can take it back to high school, you can take back pre High School, if you have great origin stories, whatever you want. And and let’s go from there.
Ahmad Imam 02:23
Yeah, no problem. Look, I’ll take it back to the beginning. So I was actually born in Egypt. My background is Egyptian. Both my parents Egyptian, of course, we immigrated to Australia when I was about four years old. And when I arrived in Australia, I actually couldn’t speak a word of English. I knew Arabic, but I couldn’t speak a word of English. And so I was put into school, had no idea how to communicate and kind of just picked up the English along the way. And we, when we arrived in Australia, we literally lived in a motel for about six months, you know, so my parents were starting from scratch. My father had a PhD, but you know, similar story to a lot of immigrants. You know, once you arrive in a different country, sometimes it doesn’t translate. And so we we had very humble beginnings. When I started school, probably when I was about five or six, I felt very different. I mean, I looked different, I sounded different. And I just felt very different. I call my school years, the pioneers or the awkward years. And I experienced a lot of a lot of bullying during that time. In fact, I was bullied for a good 10 years, because of the fact that I was different, and I look different, and I sounded different. And it really affected me at that time. And as we know, when we’re children, especially up to the age of let’s say, 15 to 16. That’s when we’re developing a concept and idea of who we are in his world. And so that the bullying led to really, really low self esteem and low confidence. It got to the stage when I was about, say 15, where my self esteem was so low as a result of all the bullying, I couldn’t even look people in the eyes. You know, that’s how short my confidence was. I couldn’t communicate with people, I just I just felt like I didn’t even deserve the VoiceBase. And that continued up until let’s say age 18 When I was 18 a significant moment that I remember is I was working at a pizza place. And my job was to make pizzas and to wash dishes. You know, it was just just a normal restaurant type gig. And my boss at the time, the owner of the pizza place was just someone that saw something in me that I didn’t see in myself, you know, and sometimes it takes, you know, only one person to completely change your trajectory. And so we got along quite well. He was very entrepreneurial. When I was about 20 and I’ve been working for a couple of years I decided to move on and see what else I can do with my life. And my boss sat me down and keep them on at this stage. I’m still you know, low self esteem, low confidence still not being able to look people in the eyes, you know, working in an industry Like that helped a little bit because you’re constantly in contact with people. But he says, he sat me down and he said, Look, I see something special in you. And I really do believe in you. But I want you to believe in yourself. And he said, I know you don’t. And he was absolutely right. I didn’t believe in myself, I had no confidence in my abilities, and I didn’t even know what I was going to do. And he gifted me something that completely changed me, he gifted me a 24 disc CD set, which was personal power to buy Tony Robbins, right. And at that time, those Tony Robbins back in a day, right when he looked like an accountant in the suspenders. So I was looking at a picture of this guy, I’ve never heard this, I don’t know who this man is. Never heard of him before in my life, I put on that first CD. And I was just I was drawn in. I mean, just something about his voice, and the way he engaged in and things that he was talking about, I’ve never really considered self improvement at that time. And so I listened to that first CD, I was hooked. And I then started that 30 Day Program. And I did that religiously, and it completely changed things up. Fast forward to today. I’ve been on a journey for the last 15 years to build my confidence and to build my courage. And the way I did that was just to completely take myself out of my comfort zone, every opportunity, I could still remember volunteering to emcee weddings, volunteering to do sales, presentation, speaking presentations, any way that I could actually challenge some of my fears, I would do that. And it was quite literally a 10 to 15 year journey of going from not being able to look people in the eyes to you know, being the person that I am now where I am confident, I truly believe in myself, I can go on stage in front of hundreds of people and speak, I can create content and inspire people now. But that didn’t start off that way. And the beautiful thing about that story is I’m now in a position as you mentioned earlier, where I’m now aligned with a company called Success resources. And they bring people to the stage like Gary Vee like Jay Shetty, like Richard Branson, and they’ve been working with Tony Robbins for a good 15 years. So start my journey in self improvement with Tony Robbins into ends up in a position that I’m at now is just just incredible. Sometimes I gotta pinch myself. Now my LinkedIn journey started in 2018, probably, literally about 18 months ago, I did not try and build a strong brand on LinkedIn. That wasn’t my intention. Initially, my intention was to actually go outside of my comfort zone, create content, and put myself out there to challenge myself just like I would with anything else. But what happened was incredible, you know, I would put out a video. And mind you my very first video took me about one hour to record a 47 second video. That’s That’s how scared I was of content creation, putting myself out there because I was new to me. But LinkedIn is a very forgiving platform, people resonated with what I had to say and gradually built up that momentum in terms of my you know, my experience, doing video and putting out content to the point where people now reach out to me for advice on content creation and, and brand building and confidence. So it’s been an incredible journey.
Scott D Clary 08:19
So that’s, it’s a beautiful story. I appreciate that. It tees it up. And I’ve actually heard the story from several other individuals that have spoken about Tony Robbins early works. And I don’t think I’ve ever realized until I started speaking about people’s personal journeys, how much of an impact he has, but it shows you, it shows you that when you are confident in your message, and you’re confident when you put out there and what you put out there is authentic, and it can really literally change someone’s life. And like You’re like quite literally living proof of that.
Ahmad Imam 08:47
So,amazing thing is that I’m sorry to cut you off. It’s not a lot. So I mean, if Tony Robbins has inspired all these people, including myself, and then I am now going out of my way to try and build confidence in others. I mean, that snowball and flowing effect of the amount of people that he’s inspired, firsthand, and secondhand is incredible. And the man has been doing this now for 40 years. So yeah,
Scott D Clary 09:10
yeah, no, no, no, I know he’s been doing it. He’s like he’s one of the originals. So what what is, I guess what, what has led you to? Because obviously, your career has been long. And you started to build out this content as almost like a challenge to yourself. It wasn’t purposely meant to be like something monetized. It wasn’t purposely meant to be something that you could actually use to drive opportunity. So what point during your career did you realize like, I want to work with success resources. I love what they do. And I think it’s actually relatively recent if I’m not mistaken, and correct me if I’m wrong, but it is. Yeah. So So when did you start to because this brand was not new. This 300,000 plus followers takes a while to build up. So was it just gradual? You just started getting opportunity and then you started To align your career with what your interests and your passions were, what was that step like because you didn’t just start posting on LinkedIn, you took a video and then all of a sudden you have opportunities which into success, you obviously had like a career in something before you pivoted to what you’re doing now? Correct?
Ahmad Imam 10:16
Yeah, correct. So So prior to this, I mean, over the last 1015 years, I’ve generally been in sales in sales roles, sales, sales, management, sales, leadership type roles. For the past six years or so I’ve actually been in property. So I was I was within the property space, probably more the buying space, as opposed to the selling space. And property is always something I’ve been passionate about, I’m a property investor in my personal life. And you know, I can sit down with you over a cup of coffee into a property that I got to the stage over the last couple of years where I was working with a business coach who was incredible in having me just unfold me and who I am. And we went through a process where I started to articulate my values. And through that process, I was actually able to articulate my mission based on my journey to things that really mean the world to me, you know, and my mission is to help a million people destroy their doubt and build the confidence and courage they need to live their best life. Right. And when I think about that mission, property didn’t really fit into that equation. And so I wanted to be in a space where I was not only around people that were doing something similar, but I could be in a space where I could, I could influence some change. And so I made a decision last year was very reason I made a decision last year, I’m like, I need to start going on a path that is more aligned with the things I like talking about, and the way I like to actually serve and help people. And so success resources came up. I mean, I’ve been following the director danmaku lane on LinkedIn for some time, just because I love what he does. And I love the things that he organizes the events that people he brings to the table. And I reached out to Michael and I sent him a message. And I said, Michael, I love what you’re currently doing. And I would love to be involved in some capacity. Can we have a call to just discuss how that might work? And he said, Yes, which, which was amazing. And we had a phone call. And I said just that I said, Look, Michael, I’ve been following you for some time. I love the people you bring out I love what they represent. And I love what you stand for. And I’d like to be involved in some capacity if I can assist. And he said, Look, Ahmed, I’ve been following you now for the last 12 months. I know what you’re all about, let’s make something happen. And I was blown away. And that speaks to the power of content creation, the power of actually building your brains through content and video content, to the point where you don’t need to pitch yourself. You know, you can speak to someone that you admire, and they say, Let’s make something happen.
Scott D Clary 12:53
And that’s what that’s what you know, everyone you spoke about, like Tony Robbins didn’t have, of course, social media to the extent we have but you know, Gary Vee and whatnot. That’s, that’s all they preach now. And that’s where they that’s where they double down and go all in on so I know I speak to I speak to I speak about Gary Vaynerchuk. And I love his strategies on social but if you listen to his his origin story, he just speaks about listen, I built myself from you know, answering every single tweet, and going all in on YouTube in early days. And that’s how Gary Vaynerchuk was built. And now he’s worth $160 million. There was no magic. Like he didn’t have a famous family. He didn’t have Yeah, okay. Yeah, the family owned wine business. But that wasn’t, you know, that wasn’t gonna retire anybody to any extent until he’s, you know, maybe he built it up a little bit, but his brand, his name, that allowed him to launch like VaynerMedia and allow him to be turned VaynerMedia into like one of the largest marketing companies, that was all just hustle and content and social. And that’s it.
Ahmad Imam 13:56
I love the way Gary Vee approached it. He brought this this humanity side of things to social media, constantly talking about kindness and giving back and a lot of people don’t really talk that a lot of icons just stick to their thing, whether it’s, you know, sales or leadership or whatever it is, he talks kindness, and he preaches kindness as an entrepreneur. But I can relate to that, obviously, on a very, very smaller scale. It’s about connecting, you know, if I was to explain how I built my following, who was connected with there’s an actually actually reaching out to people. I can’t tell you how many days I’ve fallen asleep trying to respond to people’s comments, just just because I’m appreciative of the fact that they’ve responded to my post. So actually connecting on that level. The next thing is engaging, engaging as much as you can. So I spent a good 30 minutes every single day and on, you know, when I first started, I mean, it was it was a good couple of hours, just engaging on other people’s posts, you know, liking and commenting on posts that I saw in the newsfeed from people that I didn’t know and some that I did, to try and one, show support to them, but also try and work without law of reciprocity, you know, when I see my posted that, you know, then likely to engage as well. And I did that religiously and consistently. The next thing was posting, you know, I had a very consistent posting schedule, I figured out LinkedIn, as a platform, I did a lot of research and realize that post generally lasts for about 24 to 48 hours on LinkedIn, and then they kind of just go into a black hole. And so I realized, if you’re in the visible for 24, to 48 hours, you have to create content at least once every 24 to 48 hours, you got to be posting at least though, and if you posting at least once every 24 to 48 hours and remaining in the newsfeed and you’re also engaging. So you’re further in the newsfeed from you know, other people’s posts, you’re gonna make some traction if you’re doing that consistently. And the next thing, and probably the strongest, most important one is building a community, you know, so making sure that you’re focused on building a community and showing love to the people that consistently support you. And I might start off with a one pit, one person might start off with one person that you consistently see support you on your post, grows to two or three or four, all of a sudden, you got 5060. And they’re constantly supporting you, that’s your community, that’s your tribe. And you’ve got to show as much love to them as possible. And that means support their work, engage with them actually get to know them know what they do. And so I, for me, that was a very slow and gradual process. But I must say, and I’m sure, you know, for Gary Vee work the same way. And for me, like I said, it’s on a very, very minor scale, compared to Gary Vee, of course. But at some point, you hit a tipping point. And from that point, things start to increase exponentially. I guess it’s like anything in life, I guess. It’s like compounding when we’re talking dollars and property and money. It starts off slow in terms of your following, being built up in a community that you build in traction and engagement that you’re receiving. And then it reaches a point where you just start to increase exponentially, because all of these people that are supporting you are now giving you access to their network and a lot more eyes are on your posts and on your profile. And so for me, the journey hasn’t been building a brand or trying to build a brand or trying to be this content creator. But it definitely led me on that path. And I realized that it was something that I was I was really good at you know, now I’m, I take pride in putting out you know, good quality, entertaining, content, educational, entertaining, and if it inspires people, which I receive feedback that it does just a warms my heart is brilliant. And so if I can spread my message and share my story in the same way, I’m doing it now through my content. And that helps people then brilliant.
Scott D Clary 17:37
I love that. Now this is like, this is like a LinkedIn masterclass, and it’s motivational for people, I would hope that haven’t really gotten into building out their own brand. I think there’s a lot of inhibition. I don’t think that a lot of people unfortunately, approach life, the way that you have in the sense that you’re saying I want to challenge my flaws. I want to challenge the things that I’m not good at the very difficult mindset to use and the difficult lens to look at life through. So how do you make it a little less scary? When you’re first starting? So that it’s not this huge, enormous? Oh, 300,000 people holy shit, how do I ever even communicate with 300,000? Let alone let alone 10,000? Let alone 100. Right? And it seems like it seems like it’s like monumental task. It’s like oh, I you know, posting five times a day or posting three times a day or I don’t know how to write copy. I don’t know how to do graphic design, God forbid I have to make a movie or film. So where do you start? What would you recommend?
Ahmad Imam 18:41
Okay, so I’ve spoken to a number of people and where they procrastinate the most, or the thing that prevents them from starting is actually either a lack of confidence, as in a fear of being judged, or a fear of putting yourself out there. What do I even talk about? Well, they have a lack of content, ideas and topics. And again, they don’t know what to kind of touch on, try keep it simple. Should I keep it complex, they don’t know how to edit content, or what that even looks like. There’s a number of reasons that people don’t start, but majority of reasons surprisingly, is actually just a lack of confidence in relation to putting out content. And what that would mean in terms of being judged and putting yourself out there, which I completely understand and relate to. My message is this. Nobody actually cares what you look like, and nobody cares what you sound like, but what they do care about is your message. Right? So if you have a message that you know, can actually help someone, and it could be anything, it could be a message related to your niche could be message related to conference, like I speak about whatever it is, if it’s a message that you know, can help someone you’ve actually got the obligation to share. And it was actually Tony Robbins that said when you’re when you’re looking through the lens and being self conscious and worrying about the way people are going to perceive you. It’s actually a kind of selfish thing to do. Yeah. And if that’s preventing you from spreading a message that you know can help people That’s why you’ve got the obligation to share it. So my message is to actually share your message and focus on your message, as opposed to focusing on yourself and what that might look like by putting yourself out there. And the best way to do that is if it’s if it’s LinkedIn, for example, you’re looking to create content, speak to people in the same way that you speak to your clients. If you’re having a one on one face to face coffee with one of your clients, and you’re just talking about you your journey, and the services and offering that you have content creation is no different. Talk to people as if you’re talking to that person, just one on one as if there’s someone sitting in front of you having a coffee, and you’re just talking to them organically. And that’s the way you actually connect. Now, in addition to that, if you want to actually put something out with some substance, make sure you understand your audience. Who is your audience, you know, are you actually selling a local product? Are you selling a global product, if you’re selling a global product, you know, building a global brand and audience might be nice for some dopamine hits, but it’s not going to do anything for your business. So you got to think about where your brand is, and what your brand looks like in the future. My brand right now is global. And I want to target my audience globally, I’ve got a global offering in a number of capacities. So that’s, that’s now important to me. So once you understand your audience, you’ll then be able to hopefully, understand their pain points, understand what problems you’re trying to solve for them understand what questions they’re actually asking. And then you can put out targeted content that actually answers those questions, as opposed to taking a blind shot in the dark and coming up with a content idea and going, yeah, I hope that hits the mark, you can actually do a lot more research, we know we’ve got the we’ve got the luxury of Google right now where we can literally type in anything and find out what people your audience, your target audience are actually asking. And so there’s, there’s a number of ways to, to approach this. But to answer your question, at the very beginning, if you’re procrastinating because of a fear of being judged, or a lack of confidence, or whatnot, just focus on your message and keep that very simple. And I would also ask that you go through the process of articulating your values, your personal values. So for example, I went through the process of articulating my values with my business coach, and I came up with my top five core values that literally govern everything that I do. So they they govern, you know, the relationships that I build and foster the business relationships, I choose to get into, you know, the, the friendships that I make, literally, everything that I do revolve around these five core values. And for me, it’s it’s kindness, optimism, growth, integrity, respect. And I can rattle that off, so easy, because I know that you know, that’s, that’s at my core right now. And once you understand your core values, all of your content will revolve around that every single piece of content you put out, should touch on one of those values, you don’t have to mention those values, but people should feel that from you from your content. And so that’s an important exercise, once you understand your values, then articulate your story, your brand story. So I went through my story earlier, because that’s, that’s me. That’s how I got to the point where I am now. And I like to say confidence and simply having the courage to speak your truth. You know, when you can speak to your story, truthfully, as difficult as it might be, and there are people out there with far more painful stories than I have. Once you can speak the truth of that story. And you got the courage to do that, man. I mean, it completely changes the game. And that’s how you get people to know you like you and trust you
Scott D Clary 23:43
that it just rings true with me, I appreciate you saying that the the ability to sort of like free yourself by owning your story, that that line that gives me chills, I like it a lot. I really do like it a lot. And I appreciate it. Because I think that’s when when you can get over that hump and you can just be 100% who you are. It’s the most freeing it is that is quite honestly, the most freeing and then you take that, and then you’re saying you’re transposing that into the content. And and that’s, that’s what people pick up on. For sure. That’s good people pick up on it.
Ahmad Imam 24:11
And look, it’s not an easy process. It took me a long time to start speaking my truth and being able to share my story without a fear of being judged by it or, or people, you know, having a wrong perception of me. And now I’m at the stage where I’m like, I don’t care because it’s my story. No, this is me, this is the reason that I am the way I am right now and what led me to it and if I can tell that story, and and even one person feel something similar or is inspired by that, then brilliant, that’s where I’m at. So that process is not easy. And that’s why I say confidence has the confidence is simply the courage to speak your truth because it does require courage to just own that, as painful as it might be.
Scott D Clary 24:53
And I also think as you as you own that you put it out there you’re doubling down your own confidence you have to be confident because you We’ll be tested. Like when you put yourself out into the world, like it’s not, it’s naive to think that you won’t be tested because you get a lot of, you get a lot of positive, you get a lot of reinforcement, but there’s also a lot of negative putting yourself out there. And that’s something that I think makes you stronger and almost reinforces who you are. When you can when you can, even with the negativity that comes with putting yourself out there, trust me that the Gary V’s Tony Robbins, Richard Branson’s, they have they, they have their share of of trolls and haters online. I think most recently, Bill Gates is getting the most hate I’ve ever seen him get and I think his entire career. So it doesn’t matter what level you’re at.
Ahmad Imam 25:36
Doesn’t matter who you are, there are people out there, what you do, that are just going to hate you for being you.
Scott D Clary 25:42
Yeah, which is a tough thing to and but at the same time, you have to understand that for you to for you to be honest, if you’re doing things ethically, if you are doing things righteously, people are still hating you for being you. You know what, at the very end of the day, there’s nothing you can do about it. And you really have to be proud that they’re taking time out of your day, to even even notice who you are. Because that’s that’s a success. That’s a win on your part. And it’s just sad on their part that they don’t have anything better to do. But if somebody is so angry with you being you, well, listen, you’re doing social media properly, because that’s the whole goal you got to get out of there.
Ahmad Imam 26:21
Yeah, that’s very true. I look, that’s an issue with them. That’s not an issue with you. If they are that angry, and spiteful of you, just being you, and all you’ve been doing is speaking your truth. And that’s a brilliant way to filter out who is in and who is out of your tribe. So I’ve got I’ve got no issue with that.
Scott D Clary 26:38
So you build out this you build, you start building, you start posting your story start posting, you start noticing a little bit of a following. What what’s next. When do you wonder you realize this is a brand, this is something that I’m going to double down on. This is afforded me opportunities. What are those opportunities? What does it look like at 100,000? Followers? If that’s even a measurement that you want to go by? Is there you know, there’s a lifecycle to doing this?
Ahmad Imam 27:02
Yeah, look, I I really started to understand understands the gravity of what building a following and a brand is, at that level, probably when I got to about maybe 50 to 100,000. And that is when I started to realize that everything I was posting, everyone I was endorsing everyone all speaking about people were listening. You know, as in people were genuinely taking that advice based on my recommendations, and I had to stand back and go, Wow, okay, this, this is, yeah, this is now a brand. So I’ve now got to make sure that everyone I speak about everything I align myself with is in line with that brand, because people are actually taking my recommendations and being influenced by it. It also really hit home when I started receiving all the opportunities I was receiving so many everything from from speaking opportunities. After about six months, it took me about six months to get to about 50k, I believe, at that time I started getting invited to speak at different events, right, it could be speaking about content creation, it could be speaking about a number of things. In 2019. Last year, I mean, I went from doing zero speaking events in 2018, to doing 15 in 2019. And that we’re all speaking events that people approached me about, it’s not like I was putting myself out there or sending people my speaking reel and try and try and get booked. These were people that approached me somewhere paid somewhere not paid. And to be honest, I didn’t actually care at that time because I was building my brand. And I was trying to understand exactly how I can serve people. So speaking opportunities as one, the ability to network on a global scale was just incredible. The amount of friendships that I’ve been able to build, as in genuine friendships with people overseas in countries that I haven’t even been to, has been incredible. And so when you’re going to these events, speaking and networking, all those people then if they like you become part of your tribe, they then spread that message to other people. When people are seeing you create content online. People globally are reaching out to you and they’re spreading your message to their network. So networking is a big one. Powerful collaborations right? I did a collaboration with with a good friend of mine from the states we put out a video called the most epic music video in LinkedIn history.
Scott D Clary 29:29
I actually think I saw that I I didn’t I didn’t realize it was you at the time when I saw it. It was a while back but yeah, it was
Ahmad Imam 29:37
it was probably I think it was maybe mid last year I can’t I can’t even recall now. It started off as a project that was just fun. I mean, it was a I put out a few videos were actually wrap on LinkedIn, just you know, just tongue in cheek type type content. And, you know, a good friend of mine now wasn’t a good friend of me then. He’s a good friend of me now reached out to me and he said, Look, why don’t we collaborate? You can rap I can beatbox let’s just Do something fun in goodwill for LinkedIn. And so started off as a very, you know, harmless small project. And as we started working on it, we thought you know what this is this is actually got some legs. And we we started getting a lot of people involved. So we actually got 70 other people involved and seven zero other people involved in the project where they would do a quick cameo within the actual music video. And we were actually able to get some pretty big hitters involved in that project. So we were actually able to get Daymond, John, to cameo in the video, and we’re able to get Claude silver GaryVee and Atrox Chief Heart Officer as well. And when I agreed to do that, it completely changed the game. You know, at that point, I was like, holy, holy moly, you know, like this has gone from being just an innocent video to now featuring some pretty powerful people. And so we put that video out, we were very, very proud of it, that video went viral got about 200,000 views. And look, this is LinkedIn mind you, we’re not talking YouTube 200,000 on LinkedIn is pretty decent, and ended up getting the attention of Inc and Forbes. And we actually featured in Inc, and Forbes for content, which was which was incredible. So powerful collaboration is one I started getting invited to, to podcasts and interviews. I mean, I mean, just like just like, you know, having the pleasure of being on this podcast with you. But it just became a lot more frequent. Yeah, now now I can probably say I get invited to maybe about three or four podcasts per week, and get invited to at least a couple of interviews per week. And that’s, and that’s consistent. And that’s just as a result of the brand that I built. And the more following that I had, the more that increased exponentially as well. So I mean, I’ve done podcasts with numerous people, I’ve got requests and interviews and numerous people, I got invited to speak at VidCon, you know, at VidCon, for those that don’t know, is the largest online video tech conference in the world. And I got invited to speak at VidCon to speak about content creation as a result of my presence and content on LinkedIn. You can influence movements, and this is the incredible thing. So I mean, late last year, we had a situation in Australia, I’m sure you remember, which was the bushfires, yeah, or the bush fires, you know, destroyed not only a lot of the land here, but also killed a lot of the animals and killed a lot of people and a lot of people homeless. And so you can influence movements when you have a large following and, and that’s, that’s probably the most incredible part. So we put out a movement called hashtag, dance for Down Under, where we try to raise as much money as we can. And all you had to do was put out a piece of content of you dancing to the song, I come from a land down under, I come from a land down, and we had people dancing to that song. And when we put out that hashtag me and a number of other LinkedIn personalities from Australia, the response was incredible. Like we had maybe 50 or 60 people from around the world, dancing, not just dancing, but dancing on LinkedIn, you know,
Scott D Clary 33:00
and it’s not, it’s not tick tock, it’s a
Ahmad Imam 33:03
lot of professionals here. So really jumping out of their comfort zones. And in doing that, they’re able to, you know, we’re able to raise funds and, and support that, support that as well. Other things I’ve experienced is, you know, like I mentioned with my situation with success resources, you can bypass interviews, if you have a presence, and I started noticing that I also started noticing people approaching me asking me to work with them or, or having a discussion about that, you get more leads, you have people coming your way that obviously have a look at your profile and reach out to you because they interested in your offering. You can close more deals. And I noticed this especially so probably my in my previous role. When I was doing property. I had built a social proof because I was putting out content at the time about property and position myself as an authority. I found that people when I first were speaking to them, were probably about 50 60% through that decision making process, like all I had to do was really just have a chat to them. And you know, I personally had to align with what they saw and now more or less sold, which was incredible. So I mean, the benefits have been just unbelievably if I’d say that my life has changed as a result of content creation. I’m not exaggerating, it literally has. But to answer your question, it probably all started when I hit about 40 or 50k 1000 followers, and I started getting that traction and engagement and yeah, I just kept that consistent. So it was it’s been incredible, man.
Scott D Clary 34:33
Yeah, no really good job. And and I’ve I’ve heard similar and I think that I just wanted to bring that out because I want to bring out when it started because six months is not a whole lot of work. First of all, I don’t mean to I don’t mean to diminish, obviously, but in all seriousness in terms of having any sort of opportunity. After a six month mark, there’s not much else you can do in your life, where six months later someone’s approaching you to speak on a topic or to discuss it Topic. So it shows you how it shows you how, even though in 2020, where social media has been around for quite some time, it’s still something that people don’t truly I find take advantage of properly. And professional space is a big one. So professional space is a spot where I like I’m we’re aligned, we’re 100% aligned, I think that going doubling down on LinkedIn, you could be somebody who wants to be a content you want to be, you want to be a brand, you want to go out there, you want to be your own name, or maybe you just want to close some more deals. But yeah, it doesn’t you don’t you don’t have to go all the way. You don’t have to go all the way. But you can you can start and and, you know, you start, I see the sales influencers, I see the marketing influencers, and and they’re killing it, and you and they’re hosting events and the drug. And you see, you see the companies leveraging that you see all the forward thinking companies leveraging these sales influencers, to launch these online webinars and whatnot, and you have the key notes that are the people that you see on LinkedIn posting all the time. And those are the people that are getting the jobs that are driving the business that are basically leading huge multimillion dollar commercial operations and marketing campaigns. So yeah,
Ahmad Imam 36:08
is where it’s at right now. I mean, I mean, especially suited for professional content, because it hasn’t really gone viral in a professional content space. I mean, we’ve seen the Instagrams, you know, we’re seeing the TIC TOCs. You know, we’ve obviously seen the Facebook’s that what are called entertaining content, where it’s educational and entertaining, at the same time, hasn’t really kicked off as yet. And we’re just seeing the evolution of it now on LinkedIn, which is seriously exciting. So actually can’t wait. But it doesn’t matter. If you’re a business owner, and entrepreneur and employee, you’ve got a local business, you’ve got a global business, everybody can benefit from content creation, because it just has that many benefits. And it seriously does position you as an authority. Not to mention it’s free marketing. Yeah, it’s literally putting yourself out there for free, it costs, maybe sweat equity, you know, maybe it may be the time for you to actually, you know, create that content and edited and whatnot, but you get to position yourself as as an expert in your space. And that gives you a number of other benefits. The social proof, like I said, more leads you close more deals. Not only that validates your customer’s decision to buy from you, if they if they buy from you. And then they see you out there, putting out content, people responding and appreciating the content, they know that they then just bought from an expert, and you’ve got yourself a loyal client. You know, it makes it makes you a master. A lot of the time when I’m putting out content and lot topics, I love talking about our success and mindset, and kindness and things that really resonate with me anti bullying, whatever it might be. When I put out content, if I’m not sure about a certain topic, I do my research, because I want to make sure everything I’ll put there is absolutely accurate. Which means that the more I put out content have a need to put out content, the more I need to research, the more it makes me a monster on that topic. And so and so you’re constantly reinforcing your knowledge in the same way that a teacher does, when they teach their students, they have to they have to then, you know, obviously research that topic and make sure that they’re delivering it correctly. And in doing so, they learn more throughout the process. There are so many benefits to content creation, and we’re just on the cusp, on LinkedIn, at least, of figuring out exactly. You know what that means. And I think my story is an example of just how far you can take it. And my following is huge, like relative to a lot of other people. You know, like, I mean, my following is very minuscule relative to them. But just the opportunities that have been presented to me as a result of just content creation, blows me away when I think about it, and sometimes I even get a case of imposter syndrome. You know, I’m like, do I even deserve this? You know, are people gonna wake up one day and think that, you know, I’m just a big fake, who knows, I’m days actually wake up like that. And other days I wake up and a lot more confidence. So you know, what, if my content inspires people, and I know that now it does, I’m going to continue delivering that message, and I’m going to be consistent with it.
Scott D Clary 39:05
And you gotta you got to, you got to be strong in that too. Because I think that once you achieve any level of success and recognition, no matter how outwardly strong you are, everyone will have that struggle, right? Because but there are points where you validate, you can validate, and you can use the discussions you have and you can use when you speak and you get that positive response that that’s your sounding board for what you’re putting out is valid and it’s appreciated, and it’s good. And it’s and it’s true, and it’s and you’re knowledgeable and whatever you’re speaking about. I think that I think that you just have to you have to be confident in what you do. Because, you know, I just I wanted to say one just sort of one one thing to just like double down on that point. It’s even if you were even if you were earlier on in your career, if you’re speaking your truth, and you’re doing the research, and you’re putting out the content. You may not have 30 years experience but the fact that you’re doing the research You’re you’re understanding the points, you have an educated opinion about something, and you’re putting the effort in, I already think makes you makes you allowed to speak about that. It, I think you should be allowed to speak about that. And that’s already a step that you know, like good for you for taking that on.
Ahmad Imam 40:14
That’s yeah. And look, the point that I want to touch on, especially when we’re talking social media, and we see it a lot on Instagram, is that people, people give themselves titles, right. So for the number of people on Instagram, for example, that have entrepreneur and a headline, and they’ve never started a business or had a successful business, we have to be conscious of that. So I heard from Lord Alan Sugar, he said, If you want to start a business, if you want to talk talking about something, make sure you’ve got the knowledge in it, make sure you’ve actually got the experience in it, and make sure you’re passionate about it. And so my message is that make sure you’re talking about something that you’ve actually done. You know, because we’ve seen business coaches out there that teach people how to do well, a business, and they don’t even have a successful business themselves, or people that are teaching personal branding. And they haven’t even built up a personal brand, or people that are teaching how to create content, and they don’t create content. So make sure you’re actually just talking about something that you’ve done. And when you do, you can speak about it with so much conviction, because you’re speaking from that level of experience of having done it. And that’s so important, especially in a world of social media, where you can give yourself titles and talk about things that you probably shouldn’t be talking about. So I 100%, get your point. And a lot of the time I’ve been I’ve been giving myself that knowledge as much as I can. But when I talk to the points that I’ve actually done, the level of conviction and confidence I can I can speak on it with is just next level.
Scott D Clary 41:47
Yeah. Yeah. I like that a lot. And by the way, I didn’t really I didn’t really ask you that hard stop at any point when we first started. So if you do have to, if you have to, like cut off at any point, apologies, I didn’t, but I’m enjoying the conversation. So no matter if you’re good, awesome. Okay. So I guess I wanted to I wanted to pick your brain on LinkedIn in particular, because obviously, it’s that’s where you know, you’ve built out the majority of your following. There’s a few questions that I would love to dive into. Number one, I guess where would you see the most value? Or do you see LinkedIn as probably being the best platform to engage in to start on? Content, obviously, specific and keeping in mind what your audience is, but you think LinkedIn is so a good place to start? You think Facebook is too late Instagram, too late Twitter, too late YouTube too late. Tik Tok, perhaps awkward for some people? I don’t know. What do you think about different platforms?
Ahmad Imam 42:45
Yeah, look, I Yes, I started my journey on LinkedIn. I’ve been on Instagram before. And it wasn’t really my cup of tea. I’ve been on Facebook and decided to deactivate that because I was bored out of my brain. So when I started LinkedIn, I didn’t really have strong hopes of it. But what I found was was just the opportunity. And the blue ocean was incredible. So there’s a number of statistics that I can rattle off. I mean, and Gary Vee talks about it all the time. You know, LinkedIn is now the Facebook of 2011 2012, where they’re just on the cusp of just growing and blowing out exponentially. My mindset from a social media standpoint, and when people approached me, they’re like, if I was to just pick maybe one or two platforms, what platform should I pick? Right now, if asked to give my opinion, I would actually say it completely depends on what you do and who your audience is. For me, and for people in a similar position to me and anyone professionally, for that matter. In any profession. I’ll probably say LinkedIn, and tick tock, and tick tock might surprise a lot of people because LinkedIn and tick tock are probably polar opposites. But my rationale there is LinkedIn right now has 600 million users with 1 million people posting per day, you know, 40% of people are active 60% are not that the amount of opportunity there for you to carve out your own niche within your industry within your area is unbelievable. And I don’t care what profession you’re in what niche you’re in. You can now start on LinkedIn, create content and position yourself as an authority and expert in that niche. We’re not even near to being saturated just yet. In fact, we haven’t even we haven’t even hit that tipping point. A lot of people say, well, a lot of millennials aren’t on LinkedIn. They are, you know, millennials are now making up a large proportion of the workforce. And within the next five or six years, they’re going to be the biggest majority of the workforce. They are on LinkedIn at present. You know, we’ve got like 87 Millennials on LinkedIn right now. And a lot of them are in decision decision making roles. You know, so that means that you can be on LinkedIn, target your Gen X audience, target your millennial audience who are active on LinkedIn currently, and position yourself as an expert with them. and try and master Tik Tok as well because as we know tick tock has majority of the Gen Z audience, meaning that you can approach LinkedIn focus on that target your existing audience and then focus on LinkedIn and target your future search for focus on tick tock and target your future audience then you have a combination of both. So I’ve, I’ve now felt like I’ve dominated LinkedIn, and I’m now actually trying to grasp Tik Tok, which is, which has been an interesting experience of I’ve got a 17 year old step daughter who’s actually teaching me you know, the ins and outs of Tik Tok. I’ve got four followers. So I’m doing well. I haven’t put out any videos yet, but I’m just trying to research and that’s one thing that I do when I jump on any platform. I just, I just look at all the influencers that are on that platform now what they’re currently doing, and seeing what works. And for all the professional people that are thinking I’m not gonna go on Tik Tok and dance, you don’t need to. If you go on Tik Tok right now, and you look at people like what Gary Vee are doing, or they’re their accountants on there, there are lawyers, there are brokers, and they’re all doing their thing on tick tock just in a different way. Now tick tock, remember, has the opportunity to give you 15 second videos or 62nd videos. So you can do something very quick, short, sharp, and 15 seconds, add some very quick value. And there are people that have built up followings of hundreds of 1000s, and millions doing professional content on tick tock, just in a different creative way. And so yeah, that’s my next focus. But I would say that LinkedIn is absolutely one of the best platforms to start on. And I would recommend doing it just because of that opportunity. If you wait for the next few years, or the next five years, you’re probably going to miss that golden opportunity. So you can actually build your brand now just like I have for free, which affords you all the other opportunities that I mentioned. And that allows you to then, you know, move into other platforms and move into other areas. So I highly recommend it.
Scott D Clary 46:59
Very good. Very good. And I think that sort of staying ahead of the curve, so you know, you can do you do focus on the professional, but then you’re also finding the way to get that short form video piece, which there always has been something, there’s always been some way of, you know, Vine was very popular went away now Tik Tok, very popular. So there’s always that type of content is going to be relevant. And I think the sooner you can find a way to take whatever message it could be a sound bite, it could be a listicle. It could be something short and sweet and find a way to market it over a short form video that that falls in line with how people for good or bad like to consume information. That’s just the way people are. You’re going to be successful if you can figure that one out.
Ahmad Imam 47:42
So I’m just I’m just dive deep into it. Like I mean, like I said, I’ve been creating content for X amount of years now. I’m confident creating content but going into Tik Tok, I’m like, I feel like I’m just starting a new school. Yeah, yeah, I haven’t made any friends. I have no idea what’s going on. But I’m willing to take that challenge whether I succeed or fail, but jumping on the platforms that have all the opportunity in the world. And keep in mind, tick tock in February, in February of this year, outperformed WhatsApp, Facebook and Instagram, it’s now received over 2 billion downloads. That’s an incredible, 2 billion downloads like a quarter of the planet. Yeah. You know what I mean? So when we’re talking about what kind of opportunities you get in different areas, make sure you take advantage of those opportunities when you see them early on, because there’s still plenty of blue ocean out there.
Scott D Clary 48:35
One thing I was also curious about was an Instagram influencer with 300,000 seems to be borderline multimillionaire. Why does it seem like there’s not money flowing into Instagram to the same extent, is it because of what you mentioned? Like it’s on the cost that’s getting there? It’s like, it’s not the influencer platform that an Instagram would be? I’m curious. Just, yeah, maybe.
Ahmad Imam 49:04
On that point. I think a lot of people on Instagram have curated lives. You know, I don’t think a lot of people on Instagram are actually millionaires. You know, there are definitely people like Kylie Jenner, for example. She’s, she’s the first person in history to actually become a billionaire off of a social media following, which when you think about it is just next level. Yeah. But I mean, there’s a lot of there’s a lot of fake lives on Instagram. There’s a lot of curated lives. And I’ve seen a lot of documentaries, and even just YouTube clips about people just opening up and talking to that. But yet, look, Instagram is very much in the influencer marketing space. LinkedIn is not just yet. But they’re starting to figure out the power of it, as in certain people that are switched on, that actually see the level of engagement and influence that certain people on LinkedIn have, and are using that correct li are starting to realize the power of influence marketing, marketing going forward is going to all revolve around influence marketing. I guarantee you, we’re seeing that right now. Because the power of it is insane. The power of let’s say, a Kylie Jenner going into a new cafe and taking a photo of her lunch. And then giving a shout out is worth hundreds of 1000s to that cafe, you know, and for her, it’s quick and easy. And so people are seeing the power of that LinkedIn is going to start evolving into influencer marketing, you’ll notice a few people at the top already promoting things that they already believe in. And I think that’s, that’s gonna continue. But we’re not just there yet. Because it does still have that perception in some people’s eyes as being a job seeking platform, or being a professional platform and not a platform where you can actually start to influence on that level. It’s not there yet, but mark my words, watch what happens over the next 12 months.
Scott D Clary 51:06
And I think that’s, I think it’s smart to take that and keep that in mind. Because two people look at the professional level or professional platform, but think about all the companies that advertise to professionals. Think about all the software companies, they want to get there like these, like you’re not going to see a San Francisco unicorn, advertising on Instagram, paying someone $100,000 for a post because there’s nothing, there’s nothing to post, but you can be damn sure if they know that you’re tapped into a group of decision makers at all these fortune 500 fortune 100 companies, and they’re listening to everything you’re saying. They’re gonna tap into that, and they’re gonna want those kinds of people to it’s going to be it’s not going to be a picture. It may be a video, it may be copy, it may be, you know, a link, an affiliate link, whatever, but it’s not going to be a nice little picture. And there’s a lot of money. In fact, I don’t think anyone’s saying there’s no money, in fact, yeah,
Ahmad Imam 51:55
you touched on probably the most brilliant point that and that is the number of senior level executives, business leaders, people that have wealth people that are decision makers on LinkedIn, compared to other platforms is is insane. So there are 90 million people on LinkedIn that are actually senior level executives, executives and senior level influences, and 63 million that are actually in decision making roles. Right? So mean, when you’ve got influence over those people? Yeah. And and you can potentially promote to those people, the power of marketing for that is is enormous.
Scott D Clary 52:33
No, I even I even see it with like the the paid like paid advertising campaigns that are not even influencer marketing, paid advertising campaigns on LinkedIn, and the amount of granular targeting that you can do to hit like, you know, VP level at this company, has been there for four years, and all these different types of things that is like a marketers marketers dream, to be quite honest. I think that’s gonna that’s going to double down and fold over to all the influencer marketing. Now, I was very good. I appreciate it a lot of a lot of insights. And you know, I’m, I’m a big fan of understanding and learning LinkedIn. So I appreciate you coming on and speaking to, you know, your reality and your thoughts on it. Is there anything that I wanted to was there anything about LinkedIn content creation, marketing? Because I, you know, we’ve gone through a lot of stuff, and I can’t remember everything that I wanted to bring up. But is there anything that you thought that we missed or didn’t touch on, that you wanted to speak about in terms of content creation, LinkedIn, brand, building, that kind of thing?
Ahmad Imam 53:33
Um, no, not Not off the top of my head, I think we touched on a pretty, a pretty good spectrum of topics that all would just reinforce the power of content creation, and, and for people to take advantage of that. You know, it’s just the opportunity now, and I can’t stress this enough for you to actually change your life. And the way you do things through content is now at a stage that it’s never been that before. And LinkedIn is just a platform for you to be able to do that on. There are a number of platforms, you can do that. There are people on Tik Tok right now with a million followers that are 16 years old, and now getting brand deals worth hundreds of 1000s of dollars. So mean, the power of social media right now is at its absolute peak. And LinkedIn hasn’t even reached that peak just yet. So yeah, my message is take advantage.
Scott D Clary 54:27
Good, good. Now for you what’s what’s next? What do you what’s your next steps in your story? You know, you’re you’re working with all these you know, these incredible people to deliver their messages, you know, brokering that knowledge to people through events and whatnot. You’re building your own brand. What do you want to do with your life next?
Ahmad Imam 54:46
Fall I’m ready, ma’am. It’s all about a Toronto achieved my personal mission, you know, and that revolves around helping a million people build the confidence and courage they need to live their best life. Initially, I’m going to do that via content creation, I want to teach people to embrace themselves and create content, but also make content fun. Because it is fun. You know, a lot of people see content creation as a chore, it’s a bowl, you know, I don’t have the time for it. But once they understand how fun it can actually be, and the fact that it’s actually a game. And when you think about it as a game, where you just start off at level one, and you gradually grow your skill set, you get to level two, level three, level four. And that’s literally all that I’ve done. And when you think about it, as a game, you start to, you know, lose, you know, all those fees that you associate with putting yourself out there with, that’s what I want to focus on. So I want to focus on being a confidence in content creation specialist, and assist as many people as I can through both of those things. Very good.
Scott D Clary 55:51
To close this, I like to ask a couple of like, just, you know, life lesson questions. One of them being, if you could tell your younger self one lesson over your career, what would that be, that would help you get to where you are faster.
Ahmad Imam 56:07
The best piece of advice I received was actually from Wayne Dyer, the spiritual coach and speaker. And he said something that still hits me to this day, and he said, don’t die with your music still in you. Right. And everybody that’s listening to this and everybody that he is that they know what that music is. Because as soon as you hear that, something pops up in your head. And whether it’s whether your music is painting, or whether it’s fixing cars, or whether it’s you know, singing to a group of people or creating content, or whatever it might be, don’t die with the music still in you. And when I started off the self improvement journey when I was at my lowest in terms of self esteem, I wish I heard that advice then because that probably would have made me expedite my journey.
Scott D Clary 57:01
I was fearful lion. It’s a very powerful line. I love that line. Yeah, that’s right. I mean, to interrupt you said you were you said you were fearful. And that’s what sort of pushed you over to do something.
Ahmad Imam 57:13
Yeah, look, I was always absolutely fearful of just, you know, chasing what my genius was, and I knew what my music was. And it was more or less creativity and speaking and, and, and those kinds of things. But I had so many fears, because I’ve been conditioned to feel fie and conditioned to feel that what I have to say is, you know, not really of any value. And so I wish I knew that early on and would have expedited things, but I live by that now. Right You know, I’m making sure I seize every single day cuz I’m not going to die with my music still in me anything that I have to share, I’m going to share and I’m going to do it very, very loud and proud as well.
Scott D Clary 57:53
I love it. That’s a very positive message everything like that. I’ve always found Leaders are readers. So you know, you have a mentor you have you have a book an audible a podcast, something that someone listening to consume. And you know, as per your recommendation, what do you think people should go and go and check him?
Ahmad Imam 58:14
I’m actually reading a book right now. That is probably one of the best books I’ve read in relation to content writing. So as in writing copy and text and writing incredible copy and text, and it’s called everybody writes. So I’d recommend you check that out. I’ve I’ve been actually taking a lot of tips and I’ve personally learned a lot but that’s probably my favorite content creation book that’s out there right now.
Scott D Clary 58:41
I just just Google that I’m going to add it to my Amazon cart because I’ve never it’s amazing
Ahmad Imam 58:46
you’ll love it. I mean it’s it’s by and handily yeah it’s easy book to read but the examples and case studies they give you in that just makes you think on a whole nother level and when you’re trying to engage an audience copy is important text is important even when you’re putting out video you got to put copy there to be able to tell your story in a different way to actually engage which would lead like was it so it’s a more leads and more deals closing is a powerful skill set so I highly recommend them
Scott D Clary 59:13
and if people want to find you to contact you to get in touch LinkedIn where do we go
Ahmad Imam 59:19
please reach out to me via LinkedIn please connect follow let me know what you think of my content I’d love to personally chat to you on tick tock I’ve got four followers so please feel free to jump on and show me some love.
Scott D Clary 59:31
Yeah then what’s the what’s the Tick Tock handle I need to know so I’ll go follow
Ahmad Imam 59:35
Angelo on tick tock is the dot entertainer, the d h e.edu. T AI in ER, you can find me on LinkedIn just via my name Ahmed Imam, and I’d love to connect with you on both and yeah, let’s see what this tick tock journey can look like.
Scott D Clary 59:55
All right, I appreciate it. That’s all I got anything else on your end or is that is that good for you? That’s it. That’s all for today. Thanks again for joining me on another episode of the success story podcast. You can download or stream this podcast wherever podcasts are available including iTunes, Spotify, Google, Stitcher, I heart, radio, and many others. You can also watch his podcasts on YouTube. If you haven’t already. Please subscribe and share this podcast with your friends, family, coworkers and peers. Please leave us a rating on iTunes takes about 30 seconds as it allows other people to find our podcast and lets our amazing guests reach even more people with their message. And remember any rating is fine as long as it contains five stars. I’m Scott Clary from the success story podcast signing off