How to Find Peace With Prem Rawat, Global Peace Ambassador and Speaker

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About The Guest

Born in Northern India in 1957, renowned Ambassador of Peace, Prem Rawat, has addressed hundreds of millions of people worldwide at live events as well as on TV and radio. His talks have been translated into more than 75 languages, and he is regularly invited to speak at universities and prestigious international forums and events. He has accepted invitations from global business leaders, prison inmates, remote villagers in developing countries — whoever is eager to hear his message.

The bestselling author of “Peace is Possible,” Rawat founded The Prem Rawat Foundation in 2001 with the mission to address the fundamental human needs of food, water and the often-overlooked need for peace.

The award-winning Food for People programs in India, Nepal and Ghana have transformed entire communities. He also created the Peace Education Program, which is taught in prisons; in countries ravaged by war; in veteran centers and in hospitals in more than 70 countries. The program (also used in schools and in universities worldwide) has reached all walks of life, including those marginalized by society and conflict, and inspires participants to experience real personal peace. In 2012, he received the BrandLaureate International Hall of Fame Lifetime Achievement Award, becoming only the fourth recipient of the award (with previous winners including Nelson Mandela and Steve Jobs).

Talking Points

  • 3:18 – Everyone is distracted.
  • 10:25 – The state of the world & the state of humanity.
  • 17:13 – World peace vs. inner peace.
  • 28:28 – Stress is a learned behavior.
  • 35:06 – Are you in charge of your own life?
  • 45:49 – Why is there badness in the world?
  • 48:50 – Exercises for finding gratitude and peace.

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Scott D Clary, Prem Rawat


Scott D Clary  00:00

Welcome to success story the most useful podcast in the world. I’m your host Scott D. Clary. The success story podcast is part of the HubSpot Podcast Network. The HubSpot Podcast Network is the audio destination for business professionals who seek inspiration and education on how to grow a business. HubSpot Podcast Network hosts act as on demand mentors to startups scale ups, entrepreneurs through practical tips and inspirational stories listen, learn and grow with the HubSpot Podcast Network at Network. Today, my guest is Prem Rawat. Prem is an international peace speaker, otherwise known as the ambassador of peace or the maharaja. He was born in Northern India in 1957. Over the course of his career, he’s addressed hundreds of millions of people worldwide at live events as well as on TV and radio. His talks have been translated into more than 75 languages, and he is invited to speak at universities and prestigious international forums and events globally. He’s accepted invitations from global business leaders, prison inmates, remote villagers in developing countries, anyone who wants to listen to his message he is the best selling author of peace is possible. He also is the founder of the Prem Rawat Foundation in 2001. With the mission to address fundamental human needs of food, water, and the often overlooked need for peace internationally, the award winning Food for People program in India and Nepal and Ghana that he has created have transformed entire communities. He’s also created the Peace Education Program, which is taught in prisons and countries ravaged by war in veteran centers, and in hospitals in more than 70 countries. The program also used in schools and universities worldwide has reached all walks of life, including those marginalized by society in conflict and inspires participants to experience real personal development and peace. In 2012, he received the brand laureate international Hall of Fame Lifetime Achievement Award, becoming the fourth recipient of the award with previous winners, including Nelson Mandela and Steve Jobs, we’re going to speak about some of the things some of the teachings that he evangelizes over the course of his career to audiences of millions, we’re also going to break down some lessons that he gives over in his new book here yourself how to find peace. In a noisy world, these lessons are emotional, they’re raw, they’re things that are highly relevant over the past two years, where it seems like we’ve had nothing but anxiety, stress, and a total lack of peace globally, if you are a business leader, I want you to listen to this conversation through the lens of how do I find inner peace with myself, and where is my place in the world as I built my thing, if you are somebody that just wants to be more in tune with what’s happening, and wants to know how you can be a better human in society, there will definitely be something for you in this chat as well, I really, really hope you enjoy. He’s an incredible person and incredible individual, this is Prem robot. So I’ll pass it over to you. We’ll start wherever you’d like to start and your origin story. So bring it back Prem, I don’t know where you want to start. I know you’ve spoken since you were something like four years old. So you can walk me through the beginning. And then we can bring everyone up to speed to what you’re working on. Now, while you’re speaking about now. And of course, some of the teachings that you that you discuss in the book.


Prem Rawat  03:16

Well, it’s really quite simple, because at four, it wasn’t like anything was scripted, it was very random. And the whole idea was that people I realized I needed peace, but everybody was distracted. Everybody was distracted by something, or something or something. And even if it was just daily chores that they were doing, they were distracted. And somebody needed to remind them that what they’re looking for, at the end of the day, at the very basic basic stuff. Because you know, if if you’re not happy, if you’re if you’re sad because of some reason. And if you go to the bathroom, you’re still sad. And if you’re brushing your teeth, you’re still sad. And if you are eating bananas, you’re still sad. So if you’re not happy, then that’s what’s going on. Something is missing in your life, whatever it is that you are doing. And so, to get up and to talk about peace, that really what you’re looking for, is peace. Of course you have to do what you have to do in your life. But what you’re looking for is peace. And if you have that peace, then your outlook is totally different. The way you behave the way you’re you are in this world, you’re totally different. Because people look for anger management people look for success. People look for all of these things, but these things will only come about if you feel successful, even if you are successful by any definition, but you don’t feel successful, it just isn’t gonna work. You know, it’s like, it’s like, the teacher gave you homework and you never did it. He just never did it and you come to school next day, and your whole focus is on, I didn’t do the homework, I didn’t do the homework. And I hope she doesn’t remember to ask for the homework assignment that she had given. And that would be great. So these things in the background, which we are not satisfied with, really end up driving everything that we do in our lives. And so that’s why what this is what I have been doing since then is going around and reminding people of how important it is to have peace in your life, to be to actually feel successful, to actually feel that joy to actually feel that happiness, not just talk about it, or not just have you know, labels on the outside, because a lot of people can have labels on the refrigerator, smile, you know, today’s very important smile. But do you feel that today is important, or is just just you know, somebody is gonna come along and push the two sides of your lips and make you smile, but you have to smile from inside. When things are right, you will smile naturally, you don’t have to remember to smile. And that’s that’s really my story. I just go around. And the difference that I want to make is in people’s lives, I want to make a difference in people’s lives where people realize that yeah, fundamentally, am I safe? Am I sound? Am I is everything proper? You know, it’s like, you don’t go on a boat with holes, you know, in your hole. And your solution is, well, let me get more buckets, I will just take a whole bunch of buckets. No, you don’t do that. You’ve got to have a sound Hall. And that’s that’s what I focus on is to help people have a sound, sound life.


Scott D Clary  07:09

Work point in your life, did you realize that this was something you wanted to do professionally, and not just help yourself, because I think a lot of people are very aware of things in their levels, a lot of people aren’t very aware, excuse me, let me get that squared away first. That’s why even you know, on a show that is more targeted towards business professionals, I think the number one thing that I like to speak about is when you are achieving that measure of success, that people look at you and say that person successful inside that person may be depressed, stressed out, wasting away, because they can’t figure out how to see themselves as successful. So that’s the majority of people in my opinion. But then there’s also people that also do understand that there’s more to life than just money. And they have found that but then there’s you who has now evangelized that and made a profession out of it. So what point was it the four year old? Prem? Was it, the 20 year old friend, when you’re like this is something that I actually enjoy doing is something that I actually want to build into a profession. What was that process for you?


Prem Rawat  08:10

Well, it was much more natural than that. Because at for my father, he would go and speak to people. And so he he really enjoyed me speaking, you know, in front of people. Then when he passed away, I was given the responsibility of taking this message out to people. So that was nine, I was still going to school, at 13. There was the summer vacation in India, in my in my school, and it was like, go to the west and see if people would be interested. And I came to the west. And so it just kept evolving and evolving and evolving. And so far, the professionalism of it is concerned, the professionalism to the extent that it comes from my heart. This is what I find that it has to be this kind of message is not something that you can create a business out of. You just have to be very human. This is in a way it’s kind of hard to understand because it’s the basics. It’s the basics of just being human. You’re reminding other people, please just be human. Don’t be does. You’re not this and you’re not these labels in here. You’re just a human being, just like anyone else who came through one wall at one point in time and is gonna go through another wall. And it doesn’t matter what you do in the middle. You know, people do all sorts of things in the middle, and yet the wall doesn’t move any closer or go any further away. It just stays where it is. And to me that’s that’s what I have been doing. And for me, it’s It’s been an evolution and even today, it continues to be an evolution. I keep evolving and evolving and evolving. And now I’ve taken on some trainings, which is the intelligent existence, a company that, that, you know, just go in and train people on these things on the subject matters. And so that’s, that’s really fascinating. That’s really fascinating for me,


Scott D Clary  10:25

I love that. And I wish actually more people took that attitude towards what they do in life. Because one thing that I’ve seen with you is something that you’ve done for so long, and it’s come from the heart has actually manifested, again, a definition of success by some people’s metric. And I feel like a lot of people just try and play into not what they believe that they want to do, but what society tells them they should be doing. But I’m curious. Okay, so let’s talk about let’s talk about the state of the state of the world, the state of humanity, what people are experiencing right now, it’s been a very tumultuous past two years. So what are your observations on, on where humanity is right now? Um, that’s a very broad, very esoteric question. But I know you probably have some opinions.


Prem Rawat  11:14

Well, first, I would like to, first of all, say this. There is a lot that is good. There is a lot that is wrong is true. But I want to first start with all that is good. There’s a lot of good people. And this pandemic could have been severely worse. But it wasn’t because people actually helped each other. Now, there are some people who didn’t help each other and don’t help each other. But at the end of the day, I don’t want this world to be about those people who are not part of it, who are not looking at this ecosystem, our environment, and saying and responsibility saying, Look, we can’t just go around cutting these forests, and we can’t go around, you know, polluting our environment, we have to have things in a way where we manage, take care of all that is around us. Because all that is around us is incredibly precious. I mean, you know, there is the Kohinoor diamond, and nobody would play hockey with it. You could it’s pretty strong, but you really wouldn’t play hockey with it. Why? Because it is precious. And why is it precious? Because there isn’t one like it any where else? Well, guess what? This planet Earth is also very precious, because there is nothing like it. any where else on this planet earth are human beings are animals, magnificent animals, magnificent human beings, magnificent birds, men of magnificent fishes, magnificent insects, everything that’s here. And it’s unique. And we if have the responsibility or the sense to be able to take care, instead of abuse to take care of what is around us, then this would be a very different world, this would truly be a very different world. And can we do that? Can we make this a truly a different world? And the answer to that is, of course we can. I mean, whatever the problems that we have in this world today. The good news is we created them, they didn’t come from the moon, they didn’t come on a spaceship. We created them. If we created them, then we have the possibility of changing that. Because we did it. You’re not today, whatever things are add on all the species that are going extinct all the forests that are being felt, we can change that. We actually can change that. But it really is going to require the sense of responsibility that we have not been able to accrue in our lives. This is the time when you have to realize that if this light is not going on, you keep throwing the switch and the light is not going on. That something is wrong. You can’t just sit there for 2000 years to 5000 years and go pack my backpack, Backpack, backpack web bank and hope that one day the life will go on just because you’re making friction happen, you know, that is not going to work. We need to try different things we need to give peace a chance. question is have we given peace of chat? Everybody I talked to, they say peace is not possible. I say peace is possible. But we have to give it a chance. And everybody is so divided on this issue. We need to unite we need, we need to figure out how to come together on those issues that are important, because we certainly know how to come together on issues that are not important to us. I know everybody’s ready to go for that. And that has to change. So is this a bad world? No, it’s actually a good world. And are human beings really bad? No, there are really good human beings. But we need to start acknowledging them, we need to start bringing forth who they are, you know, there’s the word heroes. And so easily something happens and all that person is my hero. We don’t need heroes. What we need is more people that are good. Not super powerful. Not you know, we really need to start looking at ourselves. Maybe the picture at first won’t be good. But again, we can change it, we can make it whatever we want it to be.


Scott D Clary  16:23

So this is a good this is this is perfect for asking about for rather the next question I want to bring up when you wrote this book. So the book is here yourself how to find peace in a noisy world. So I’m curious when you wrote this book for you considering finding peace in a noisy world in the context of I need to find peace in myself in this all this signal out there? And I just need to be happy with who I am? Or is it pieces in all the conflict all the all the the separation that we’ve seen, especially in obviously, across the world, but especially in North America over the past two years with politics and race and race and social justice issues? Is that the piece that we’re trying to find which piece is going to be the one that’s going to fix the world rather?


Prem Rawat  17:11

This is that’s a very interesting question. And the reason why it’s interesting is that there is one noise. So we’re talking about noise now. So there is one noise, that is the outside noise and I can take care of that by putting earplugs in, but then there is another noise that is between my ears and no amount of earplugs are going to silence that noise. Now the question is what is projected in this world that is negative, that is bad? Is it coming from outside noise? Or is it coming from the noise between the ears because if it is coming from the noise that is between the ears, then it is the inner peace that will silence that. So the outer peace will be because of the inner peace. Because all the wars are because of the war within people, like United Nations said, you know, the wars begin in the minds of human beings. That’s where it begins. So if there is a hole somewhere, it’s the hole where we don’t have the luxury of having that piece inside of us. And that’s where we have to find it. That’s that’s what this book is all about. It is really changing. Instead of focusing outside the world is bad outside the world’s bad outside. No, wait a minute, wait a minute, what’s going on inside people? What is going on inside human beings? We want people to be kind. How do you make a person kind? You don’t try to teach kindness. You can teach kindness to somebody you can start to say, you know, be kind and you can hit a person if they’re not crying, but that’s not gonna teach them kindness. Kindness comes when you’re feeling good. That one day that you get up and you feel great because you’ve had a good sleep. Everything is going good in your life. You feel good. You know, you’re whistling away you go. Somebody takes your parking spot. Fine. You’re like, go ahead. It’s okay. Somebody cuts in front of you in the line. You don’t care. It’s like come on in. Not Not a problem. What happened? What happened was, you were happy. And because you were happy, you automatically became client. Now, when you are upset somebody cuts you, in front of you, you get out rate. Why? Because that rage is inside of you. You see, wherever we go, we take peace with us. And we take anger with us, wherever we go. The it’s not like you know, when you bolt your bathroom door, that the piece and all those things are waiting for you on the other side, now they came in with you wherever you go when you travel on an airplane, all of this goes with you. So the question really becomes, is that isn’t the world situation that is bad, a projection of what is happening inside people. And I know for sure that that’s the case. Because when they are frustrated, everything is frustrated outside. And unless we fix it inside human beings, put them in touch with that beauty. You know, and again, I want to say that there are people who have a lot that is good inside of them. And that’s why the world picture is not as bad as it could be.


Scott D Clary  21:20

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If you are trying to achieve peace and happiness in your life, you see it all the time. But people are obsessed with this. And now it’s harder than ever to pull away. So how do we shut off the negative noise that is playing into our psychological need for adversity and anger? And and how do we achieve that in our lives so that we can go through the day and not be mad when somebody cuts us off?


Prem Rawat  27:04

Yes, yeah, more and more of this behavior that we have learned. The worst and worst situations on the outside yet. Road Rage has really become very prevalent, you know, did it always exist in some little form, it always existed. But now it’s really prevalent. But these are behaviors that we weren’t born with. These are behaviors that we have learned. Social media is a behavior that we have actually learned the importance of being on social media. I mean, I know what it is, you know, I was what, when I was born, and I was being raised in India, we didn’t have cell phones. And in fact, when I came to the west, we didn’t have cell phones or cell phone that you could get in those days was the size of an attach a case. And you had to carry it around and charge it and you know, so on and you could get a car phone installed. And you could talk to international countries better on that phone than on regular landline, because an operator would come on and connect to you through. So you couldn’t misplace your phone. Because it was a physical thing that sat somewhere. You know, not too long ago, somebody lost their phone. And the level of distress it caused them because they misplaced their phone or their phone got stolen was unbelievable. Unbelievable. But these are learned behaviors. These are not natural to us. This is what we have to remember. We have learned something and we have to decide, do we like it or not? We cannot become slave to it. We need to be the owner of our life. We need to be the captain of the ship. Because we are the captain of the ship. Nobody else is the captain of the ship. We are the captain of the ship. We’ve got the steering wheel in the palm of our hands. And we steer it. When we don’t pay attention. Things don’t go well. When we pay attention. things do go well, we are the captain. This is happening on our watch. How are we going to change it? Are we going to become conscious of what is happening in our lives? Or are we going to remain unconscious? and just you know, if this is happening, and I don’t care, I just want to flow with the flow. The thing is, flow with the flow is fine. But you might drown, he has to get out of the river. And people are just more concerned about that flow more concerned about being on the phone more concerned about. And this all stems from one thing. This stems from this disease that is called what do other people think of me? Am I cool? I went saw this documentary. And this documentary was about advertising. And the host asked this question says, How is it possible that water started to get sold? Water? I mean, we know we’re 70% water, our planet is 70% water. So it’s one of the most abundant things, and yet, we buy water. So then it cuts to this lady who used to be in this advertising company. And somebody went to her and say, We want to sell bottled water? How do we do it? So she put two and two together. And she said, Okay, you can’t sell water. But what you can sell is the coolness, the coolness of drinking water from a bottle. So this is what she sold. And people bought it. People everywhere said yes, it is a cool thing to have a bottle. In India, it is amazing. Sometimes, you know, and when I do large events in India, you know, it’s 200,000 300,000 people, and you go back. And of course we make sure that all the bottles get picked up. But it is absolutely bizarre of how many empty bottles there are been or people have just taken and this is what happens as human beings, we need to be human, not become sheep. We are starting to become sheep. And this is not right. This is not correct. One story that really makes a big difference in people’s lives. Because one of my programs, which is the Peace Education Program is in prisons, and helping people who are locked away and so on and so forth. And a simple story is that one day there was a farmer, and he took his sheep out grazing, and he found a little lion cub. I’m really cutting the story short, but it’s the lion cow. He brought the lion cub back home, and he put the lion cub with the sheep. So slowly, slowly, over the period of years, the lion cub grew up, he would go out with the sheep, he would come back with the sheep he would live with the sheep. One day a real lion king. And when the real lion came, the lion roared and all the sheep scattered. And the little cubs scattered to he buried his head in a in a tree trunk. And that’s when the big lion saw this. He came over to the little cub lion and said what are you doing? So please don’t eat me. You know you’re gonna eat me. So Nakamura each year will eat the sheep, not you. You’re just like me, because oh, I don’t know. I don’t know. I’m a sheep. I’m a poor sheep. Please don’t eat me. And the lions that come with me. It took him over to the lake. He said look in, see your reflection. And when the little cub saw his reflection, he realized he was in a sheep. We have become sheep because we just follow what other people do. We have to be in charge of our life. That’s what this book is all about. This this book really is to entitle you, as a human being, to start looking at yourself as a human being. Not just what the world is projecting on you, but what you project on the world. It should be the other way around right now. The screen is driving the projector that the projector driving the screen is the other way around. And that’s why it doesn’t feel good.


Scott D Clary  35:00

I love I love that analogy. And that is very good story I want to understand. If you are trying to take a little bit more control of your own life, there’s so many benefits in in all aspects of your life personal and professional. One of the main topics that was in this book is gratitude. And I think that that’s an important topic that I want to unpack because I think that if we have more gratitude in our lives, perhaps we are a little bit happier with where we’re at, and less of a slave to other people’s opinions. And that sheep analogy, the sheep story is a perfect analogy for why do we get sucked into social media, why we buy things that we can’t afford, why we post these things for people to look at, even for people that we don’t even care about, we want to validate ourselves. So talk to me about gratitude, some lessons that you’ve learned, or that you can impart on the audience about how important it is, or how to have more gratitude for the things that you do have, so that you don’t have to become a slave to other people’s expectations.


Prem Rawat  36:06

Well, let me tell you a story. Another story.


Scott D Clary  36:09

I love the stories.


Prem Rawat  36:10

Yeah. So once one day, the king was going to attack and have a war. So all night long, he just lay there on his bed going, you know, I’m gonna be fighting tomorrow and I might get slain. And if I do, am I going to go to heaven? Or am I going to go to get help? So he kept saying that themselves, heaven, hell, heaven. Hell. He woke up in the morning, and he was all confused. He’s like, I don’t know what heaven is. I don’t know what hell is. So he got ready. And he’s out there and his armies following him and he’s in the front. And this, this is just going on in his head. What is heaven? What is hell? What is heaven? What is hell? And he sees a wise old man walking. So he immediately takes his horse and runs over to him and says, A wise man. Tell me what is heaven? What is help? And the wise man says, I don’t have the time. I’m on my way. I can’t talk to you. The king becomes furious. Do you have any idea who I am? I’m the king. I’m your king. I’m your sovereign Master. How come you don’t have time for me? What that what’s wrong with you in order bla bla bla, bla, bla. And the Wiseman said, King, now you are in hell. As soon as the king heard that, he was like, wow, he’s right. He’s right, he really his wives. Immediately the king got off his horse, got on his knees, thank you so much, you really opened my eyes. And the Wiseman said, King, now you are in heaven. That’s what gratitude is. Gratitude is a little bit of heaven. On Earth. It is when everything is right with you, that you feel thankful, not wrong. We live in the midst of so many things every day, this is wrong. This is wrong. This is wrong, this is wrong. We worry, we worry, and we worry and we worry. We have the fear. The fear produces all the worrying and the worrying produces anger. And then we of course say to ourselves, we don’t I don’t want to be angry. I don’t want to be this. I don’t want to be that. But never for once do we stop and look around and be thankful? Not for what we do you know, because our whole life is about what we don’t have. This is what we think about what I don’t have this, I need that I need that I need that I need that. But what would happen if we started taking just small notice of all those things that we do have, that we have this breath that we have this life, that we have this existence, that we have this opportunity to be alive that we have this body that we have some good friends that we have parents that we have, whoever, whatever is good at our life, because we don’t take inventory of it. We know in business you need to have inventory if you don’t take inventory of what you have. And you always keep pretending of what you don’t have. Then you To order way too much, and you’re going to have a surplus, and the law of supply and demand will disappear. Because if there isn’t the demand, what are you going to do supply are no supply, you don’t have it, the demand, then you have all these things that are just lying there, and you’re paying for it. So, same thing in life, we have to take cognizance of those things that we do have. And that creates naturally when you look at those things, that creates gravity. And when gratitude comes, it makes things right. It’s a beautiful thing. It makes you smile, not because somebody told you to smile, but you smile, because you wanted to smile. That’s what gratitude does. It makes you appreciate all those things that you do have. Because all you appreciate right now is all the things you don’t have compared to you have to appreciate the things you do have.


Scott D Clary  41:10

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Scott D Clary  44:51

all the anger and the stress that you see at a global scale because Okay, so say a couple people. Take this lesson to heart But still, at a global level, we still see again, all of this division and separation. And how do we how do we work towards solving those? And and what? Because not everybody is going to get on board, right? Not everybody. So how do we get more of those good people? And how do we tip the scales in that direction, so that we can have critical mass on the good side? And perhaps that will sort of mitigate some of the bad?


Prem Rawat  45:24

Well, here’s the issue. When we look at the badness in this world, badness. So, we see that there is no shortage of food. There is no shortage of for this plenty of food, that’s, you know, the


Scott D Clary  45:48

money. There’s plenty of plenty of everything,


Prem Rawat  45:50

plenty of everything, and no reason for situations to be bad. But wherever I go, people say, Oh, it’s the greed. It is the greed that is making things the way they are. This is a greedy world we live in. So then the question becomes, what is the antidote for greed? What will take away greed? What happens when you come across your favorite song being played on the car radio, its volume, volume goes up, right? Because you love that song. You like that song? When you like something, you don’t mind sharing it. When you’re cooking, in your kitchen, you got your friends around, and you making a dish and it tastes great. It tastes incredible. You’re like, Okay, you got to taste this, you got to taste this. It’s not ready yet. But you got to taste this. And you’re giving it a spoon, because you want to share something when it’s good. You want to share. Same thing, when you appreciate gratitude. Gratitude is what appreciation is one thing those people who have greed don’t have because they cannot sit down and appreciate what they have. So it’s like I need more, more, more, more, more. And as soon as they start appreciating, they will see the abundance. So this is why gratitude is so important. Because it actually can take us and tip us like you said, two words, being who we really are, you know, this is what Socrates said, be thy self, you know, know thyself. And we are we don’t know who we are. So we’re walking around in a daze. It’s like, Well, who am I, you know, oh, I’m this, I’m this, I’m this. But we are none of those things. We do have something very beautiful inside of us. And we don’t appreciate it. That simple appreciation of who you are. By knowing who you are, can bring gratitude and when it can tip you it can tip humanity because humanity is nothing more than a whole bunch of you. I love that.


Scott D Clary  48:51

Do you have for somebody who’s listening to this? And they want to focus on understanding who they are so they can feel more gratitude in their life for the things that they do have? Do you have perhaps an exercise or something that they can action that would help them start to get on this process to understand who they really are?


Prem Rawat  49:13

Okay, I’m asked that quite a bit. Yeah. That’s a very good question. To me, it’s like this. I want for them to just think about one thing. And that is that what they are looking for? I’m not even defining what they’re looking for. But what they are looking for is inside of them. That’s it. I want them to just stop. Understand that what they are looking for is inside of them. period. And if they can do that they have taken the first step towards the journey home. Because that’s what we don’t do. We are so triggered, it’s somewhere out there. Something else, somebody else is going to fix my problems, there’s going to be an angel that’s going to come to work,


Scott D Clary  50:30

or something. Yeah,


Prem Rawat  50:33

exactly.But what you’re looking for is inside of you. So it’s like this, you’re walking in the desert. You’re thirsty. And you don’t know what to do. Just know that the bottle of water that you placed in your backpack is still there. Don’t become delirious. Put down your backpack, open your backpack, take out the bottle and quench your thirst. That’s all you have to do. That’s how you begin. I love that. That’s how simple it is. We overcomplicate everything, no way. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, some course that you have to take somewhere that you have to go, No, the thirst is in you. And that water is in YouTube. This is the message that has been for years and years and years and 1000s of years, but you’re looking for is inside of you.


Scott D Clary  51:42

All right, I want to I want to, I always do some rapid fire questions for you at the end of every show. And I know that we’re going to probably take another 1015 minutes to do that. So before I pivot, were there any other teachings or insights that you wanted to speak about? Even what people would get out of reading this book, just to close off this discussion? Because that’s been very good, thank you.


Prem Rawat  52:07

I really think that one thing they will come away with, and it is really giving a totally different perspective to the everyday common problems that we have. It is really allowing somebody to look at their life, other people’s life situations that they come through, in a totally different light. You know, and I have to say that I did the audio book for this book. So I had to, yeah. So I ended up reading the whole book again and again and again, in paragraphs and paragraphs. And it had a profound effect on me. Even though I put it together, it had a profound effect on me. Because it’s like, yeah, you know, I could I could, I can’t get mad at people, I have anger in me just like anybody else. I’m not, you know, one of those things that doesn’t ever get mad or never gets angry. But, again, just to be able to say, look, that’s my choice. You know, it’s my choice. If I want to be angry, it’s my choice. If I want to be this way, I am the captain, I am steering the ship. And this this situation that whatever I have created around me, is it something that I want, or I don’t want? You know, one of the things that I say in this book is only take away from this book, what makes sense to you? If it doesn’t make sense? Don’t do it. And so it has to make sense. You have to understand it. It has to say yeah, okay, the penny dropped, you know, and this book is about dropping a few pennies. Just you know, that’s, that’s what it is.


Scott D Clary  54:02

Very good. And if people do want to go get the book, or reach out to you or consume more of your content, where would they go? Social,


Prem Rawat  54:09

they can relate all of that. Yeah, I’m on YouTube, Premier, our official channel on YouTube, and there’s also Prem And then there is also TPRF, which is which stands for the prime route Foundation, and all this content is is available and then there is timeless and all the content is available there as well.


Scott D Clary  54:32

Amazing. Okay, amazing. Okay, so these are more career questions, and well, actually some that are personal questions that I want to pull out. So the first question I asked is, what’s the biggest challenge you’ve overcome in your personal your personal or professional, professional life? Excuse me, and how did you overcome it?


Prem Rawat  54:50

The challenge isn’t just that I have overcome the challenges that I have to overcome every single day. Because every day I am given A pot of gold. And I have to save it. If I throw that part away, it’s never going to come back. That’s what every day is about. I’m my challenge is every single day. And when I look back at my life, I have to say, how many pots did I save? And how many pots did I throw away? I am inspired by how many pots I saved. And I am cautioned by how many pots I threw away, so that I don’t do that again. And the challenge has become every single day. And I love that challenge.


Scott D Clary  55:41

One person who had an incredible impact on your life, who was that? And what did they teach you?


Prem Rawat  55:45

My father, they had incredible impact on my life. And they my father is no longer with me. But they can, he continues to teach me continues to shape me because he told me so much. And then everybody else in my life, even people who are not traveling with me, just, you know, I learned I tried to learn from people, wherever I go. And one day I saw this one person, they were walking with their bicycle, and they were moving their hands and talking and I just kind of felt sorry for them. You know, they’re really wacko, because they’re just talking to themselves. And then when that person came close, I realized they had headphones on, they were actually on their phone, talking to somebody in the in the ether. So everybody can teach me. Everybody can teach me every single day. And to be able to get to that point has been this journey that still continues to unfold.


Scott D Clary  56:54

If you had to pick a book, or a podcast or some source that somebody should go learn from outside, of course of the stuff that you’ve put out, what would be something that you’d recommend?


Prem Rawat  57:09

Everywhere you go, take it in, take it in, take it in, take it in, a lot of people go Yeah, I don’t want to take that in because that person wasn’t this person wasn’t that? No, it’s just like going in a shopping center. You don’t buy everything in that shop, you buy what you came to buy, what makes sense to you take it in, take it in and take it in take. There’s so many wonderful books, there are so many wonderful songs. You know, human beings have been on the face of this earth for a very long time. And they have done some magnificent things. And all those need to be accepted. All those things need to be appreciated. Because our inspiration can come from that. We are incredibly creative beings, incredibly, incredibly creative. And we should stay that way.


Scott D Clary  58:05

And what would be one unpopular opinion that you hold?


Prem Rawat  58:11

Well, when any person says, I know what you’re talking about, that is very not popular with me at all. No, listen, listen, listen, you know, give yourself the benefit that you can learn.


Scott D Clary  58:28

Very good. And then last question, what does success mean to you?


Prem Rawat  58:33

Success means feeling that gratitude every single day. That’s what success means to me. Not there is a line that yeah, I’ve got enough of this or enough of that. I mean, why should I? Should I? Why should I say I’ve got enough of this? No, I can have more, I can have more. And I can have more than I can have more. This is what piece does to you. It’s like, it gives you this ability to be able to enjoy life with no limits. All of a sudden, you can say I don’t want to limit this. I don’t want to limit what gratitude makes me feel like I don’t want to limit what piece makes me feel like I don’t want to limit what happiness makes me feel like no limits whatsoever. And appreciate every day. This is for me. My success. Did I did I did I capture today. Then if I did great. If not, then nothing happened. You know, to me, this becomes that thing. It’s like we know our pilot, I fly airplanes. And when I do this one thing. It’s called situational awareness. And I talked about that in the book too, is so important because if you don’t have situational awareness, things are not going to go good for you. And maybe Socrates didn’t say it in those exact words. The word He’s used word Know thyself, but he’s still talking about situational awareness, to be aware of where and where and what is happening around you. So that’s the way I look at success is when you know yourself.


Scott D Clary  1:00:19

I love it. That’s, that’s all I have. That’s perfect.


Prem Rawat  1:00:23

Thank you very much. Great. Thank you. Great. Thank you

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